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Hello kersau,
that indeed sounds very similar to what is going on with the boat I’ve been looking at. Although there is not quite as much water entering with this one.
I am sorry, the ‘salmon’, is that the keel element? Because I only know the fish salmon, but the word also came up when translating your and others’ posts with Google Translate.
[…] reopen the joint on each side at the top of the salmon and fill it well with sikaflex then sealants?
This is what the guys wanted to do here: Sand away material so there is a good gap there and then fill that up with Sikaflex. And that’s also what the current owner of the boat ordered to be done now, as the price for that was very reasonable (150 EUR). He then wants to put it back in the water and see if that fixed the problem already. Although of course while it may slow down or stop the issue of water entering, the (substantial) structural damage done by the delamination that has already happened is not going to be addressed by that.
But I will let the guy know, that he should really do a good session, to know if this helped or not. And I can also let you know what comes of this of course!
The way they want to do it is do grind away a gap around the keel/hull connection line all around on the outside and refill that with Sikaflex. They say Sikaflex flexes a little bit and seals it well, and that’s what is used on modern boats these days for that purpose.
On the inside, they want to sand down a lot of the material all around what they call « the box », apparently the structural element taking up the keel from below. For that they actually need to cut through the built in portside ‘furniture’ hull element, because that is partly covering the box. They would then redo that with a lot of fibreglass to strengthen it, which would actually make it come up a few centimeters higher, so there would be no more space/need for the plywood cover. The bolts would be housed in little cavities that are then closed up with silicon. It would then all be finished up and painted properly.
It actually sounds like it would be really well done and could look pretty nice. They want 2.000 EUR for that, plus/minus. 😅
Factoring that into the buying price will be a tough sell…
Anyways, I’ll keep you posted!
Here are some more pictures. The boatyard guys ground away some from the inside and outside to have a better idea of what they’re dealing with.
Hey Alain, thanks for writing back.
The color of the seal between the keel and the hull, is to me an absolute red flag. I wouldn’t buy this boat, for sure (I hope it’s still a buying project for you) .
You mean the dark (wet) stripe along that line?
I haven’t bought it yet, no. But I also wouldn’t be doing it myself, I would have it done professionally. But yeah, that’s where the question of it being economic comes in.
Hi Alain,
thanks for the reassurance! That all sounds very reasonable…
It seems my experiences with the Bahia are not transferrable, maybe its rig is oversized for the weight/ballast it has. I mean, you can pretty much lift/carry it with two people, which is not possible with the Edel 4.
Thanks for the input! Also the pointers about the spinnaker and reefing.
Cheers
WillHello Isabelle,
thanks for the warm welcome!
Could you elaborate what exactly it is that makes the Edel4 so different from the Bahia? Because at the surface they do look kind of similar to me. Or is it that the lifting keel of the Edel4 has substantial weight, whereas the Bahia’s ist basically just a daggerboard?
Kind regards and you too
Will
